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		<title>By: Asanji Conlin Nji</title>
		<link>http://anglocatholicninjas.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/maximus-the-confessor/#comment-956</link>
		<dc:creator>Asanji Conlin Nji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sir , what will it take for me to have a copy of this book?
i am in cameroon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sir , what will it take for me to have a copy of this book?<br />
i am in cameroon.</p>
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		<title>By: David T. Koyzis</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T. Koyzis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 10:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Michael. I appreciate your taking the time for such a thorough response to my question.  My understanding is that the current Patriarch of Constantinople favours reaching out to Rome, but the Moscow Patriarch, whose flock is much larger, is a formidable obstacle to any improved relationship. This, of course, is the trouble with the Orthodox, who are broken up into myriad, often mutually jealous, jurisdictions. If one were to make a move towards Rome, the others would have none of it. It is difficult to see how, short of an eighth ecumenical council, the break of 1054 - much exacerbated by 1204 - can be healed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Michael. I appreciate your taking the time for such a thorough response to my question.  My understanding is that the current Patriarch of Constantinople favours reaching out to Rome, but the Moscow Patriarch, whose flock is much larger, is a formidable obstacle to any improved relationship. This, of course, is the trouble with the Orthodox, who are broken up into myriad, often mutually jealous, jurisdictions. If one were to make a move towards Rome, the others would have none of it. It is difficult to see how, short of an eighth ecumenical council, the break of 1054 &#8211; much exacerbated by 1204 &#8211; can be healed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Trolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Trolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add something in praise of one of the other Ukrainian Catholic profs, Fr. Peter Galadza, who teaches Liturgics.   He&#039;s one of the best Byzantine liturgical scholars in the world, in any jurisdiction.   He offers a course on the history of the Byzantine Eucharistic Liturgy, from the earliest times until today, and knows the details of its use in various languages and jurisdictions inside and out.   He served as the leading editor for the UGCC&#039;s recent English language missal/hymnbook - the first time many of their hymns had been translated into English.

All this to say that in the Eastern Rites, at least the Ukrainian Catholic Church, there is a real concern to be genuinely Eastern in their liturgical practice, not to be sort of half way between Orthodoxy and Rome.   This created a lot of discussion, because many Eastern parishes are so heavily latinized - is there to be a forced delatinization?   And how quickly, and to how great an extent does this take place?   But there is that concern and vision, and the heavy academic guns to back it up.   When Byzantines, both in communion with Rome and not, are able to work on things like this together - especially liturgy, I think - I believe there is a deep hunger created for intercommunion, and the understanding that the two parties are part of the same Tradition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add something in praise of one of the other Ukrainian Catholic profs, Fr. Peter Galadza, who teaches Liturgics.   He&#8217;s one of the best Byzantine liturgical scholars in the world, in any jurisdiction.   He offers a course on the history of the Byzantine Eucharistic Liturgy, from the earliest times until today, and knows the details of its use in various languages and jurisdictions inside and out.   He served as the leading editor for the UGCC&#8217;s recent English language missal/hymnbook &#8211; the first time many of their hymns had been translated into English.</p>
<p>All this to say that in the Eastern Rites, at least the Ukrainian Catholic Church, there is a real concern to be genuinely Eastern in their liturgical practice, not to be sort of half way between Orthodoxy and Rome.   This created a lot of discussion, because many Eastern parishes are so heavily latinized &#8211; is there to be a forced delatinization?   And how quickly, and to how great an extent does this take place?   But there is that concern and vision, and the heavy academic guns to back it up.   When Byzantines, both in communion with Rome and not, are able to work on things like this together &#8211; especially liturgy, I think &#8211; I believe there is a deep hunger created for intercommunion, and the understanding that the two parties are part of the same Tradition.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Trolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Trolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my limited ecumenical experience, the Sheptytsky Institute is one of the most remarkable examples I&#039;ve seen of genuine bridge building between churches.   The mandate of the institute is Eastern Christianity in all its forms - Eastern and Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Catholic, and Assyrian - while being under the patronage of the Ukrainian Catholic hierarchy of Canada, and providing the academic formation for Ukrainian Catholic seminarians.   There were a number of Eastern Orthodox students there as well, as well as students who were not Orthodox or Catholic, and everyone seemed to get along famously.   

As I mentioned, two of my profs were Ukrainian Catholic and two Eastern Orthodox (of two different jurisdictions, one OCA and one in the Carpatho-Russian Diocese, under the Ecumenical Patriarchate).   One of the Ukrainian Catholic profs, in the first part of his dogmatics course, described his vision of the Eastern rite as &quot;Orthodox in communion with Rome&quot; - the idea being that, especially since Vatican II, the purpose of the Eastern Catholic Churches is to be fully Orthodox in their doctrine and liturgy, yet passionately devoted to the unity of the Church.   My professor&#039;s understanding of this was that at times Eastern Catholics might have a somewhat different interpretation of certain doctrines, while respecting a principle of unity in diversity, agreement in essentials and the primacy of the See of Peter (we talked a lot about the differences between the Eastern and Western views of the Trinity).   

The Orthodox and Catholic priests take turns presiding at the Hours in the chapel, and the Liturgy as well, I believe, subject of course to Orthodox rules for reception of the sacraments.   There does seem to be a deep desire among the students and faculty for a genuine reconciliation between Rome and Constantinople - there is no desire to gloss over problems of doctrine or of history, but a genuine attempt is being made to understand what the problems are, and to pose creative solutions.

The understanding of the Eastern Rites as having an enduring and honoured place within the Catholic Church, even having a role to play in evangelization, helps a great deal, I think, in unity talks.   Before Vatican II, I think they were often seen only as a concession to those unwilling to go all the way and adopt the Latin rite.  Now, things are improving - the situation in Ukraine is particularly difficult due to the division of the Orthodox Church in that country, and the surpression of the Ukrainian Greco-Catholic Church under the Soviets, but there are hopefull signs elsewhere, especially between the Melkites and the Antiochian Orthodox.   This is to say nothing of the positive development between the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox.

So, a lot of work to be done, but much enthusiasm among the current generation of theological students.   There&#039;s a tremendous amount of good will, and I for one am most enthusiastic about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my limited ecumenical experience, the Sheptytsky Institute is one of the most remarkable examples I&#8217;ve seen of genuine bridge building between churches.   The mandate of the institute is Eastern Christianity in all its forms &#8211; Eastern and Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Catholic, and Assyrian &#8211; while being under the patronage of the Ukrainian Catholic hierarchy of Canada, and providing the academic formation for Ukrainian Catholic seminarians.   There were a number of Eastern Orthodox students there as well, as well as students who were not Orthodox or Catholic, and everyone seemed to get along famously.   </p>
<p>As I mentioned, two of my profs were Ukrainian Catholic and two Eastern Orthodox (of two different jurisdictions, one OCA and one in the Carpatho-Russian Diocese, under the Ecumenical Patriarchate).   One of the Ukrainian Catholic profs, in the first part of his dogmatics course, described his vision of the Eastern rite as &#8220;Orthodox in communion with Rome&#8221; &#8211; the idea being that, especially since Vatican II, the purpose of the Eastern Catholic Churches is to be fully Orthodox in their doctrine and liturgy, yet passionately devoted to the unity of the Church.   My professor&#8217;s understanding of this was that at times Eastern Catholics might have a somewhat different interpretation of certain doctrines, while respecting a principle of unity in diversity, agreement in essentials and the primacy of the See of Peter (we talked a lot about the differences between the Eastern and Western views of the Trinity).   </p>
<p>The Orthodox and Catholic priests take turns presiding at the Hours in the chapel, and the Liturgy as well, I believe, subject of course to Orthodox rules for reception of the sacraments.   There does seem to be a deep desire among the students and faculty for a genuine reconciliation between Rome and Constantinople &#8211; there is no desire to gloss over problems of doctrine or of history, but a genuine attempt is being made to understand what the problems are, and to pose creative solutions.</p>
<p>The understanding of the Eastern Rites as having an enduring and honoured place within the Catholic Church, even having a role to play in evangelization, helps a great deal, I think, in unity talks.   Before Vatican II, I think they were often seen only as a concession to those unwilling to go all the way and adopt the Latin rite.  Now, things are improving &#8211; the situation in Ukraine is particularly difficult due to the division of the Orthodox Church in that country, and the surpression of the Ukrainian Greco-Catholic Church under the Soviets, but there are hopefull signs elsewhere, especially between the Melkites and the Antiochian Orthodox.   This is to say nothing of the positive development between the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox.</p>
<p>So, a lot of work to be done, but much enthusiasm among the current generation of theological students.   There&#8217;s a tremendous amount of good will, and I for one am most enthusiastic about it.</p>
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		<title>By: David T. Koyzis</title>
		<link>http://anglocatholicninjas.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/maximus-the-confessor/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>David T. Koyzis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 18:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, it&#039;s rather extraordinary to think of Eastern-rite Catholics and Orthodox teaching and studying together at the same place. In the old countries they are not famously fond of each other, with Orthodox viewing the Catholics as turncoats of sorts. Is there any of this tension at the Skeptytsky Institute? Or there a concerted effort to build bridges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, it&#8217;s rather extraordinary to think of Eastern-rite Catholics and Orthodox teaching and studying together at the same place. In the old countries they are not famously fond of each other, with Orthodox viewing the Catholics as turncoats of sorts. Is there any of this tension at the Skeptytsky Institute? Or there a concerted effort to build bridges?</p>
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